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3006 bukkeladning
#1
Haløjsa.
Hvad er den optimale bukkeladning i kaliber 3006. I forhold til minimal kødskade og maks virkning.
Det samme for skotske hjorte.
Riflen er en r93. Og skudafstand til buk er mellem 0 og 110 meter. De skotske hjorte tja vel nok mellem 150 og 300 meter. Har ingen erfaring omkring jagt i nordskotland så der er et gæt.
Svar
#2
Vil foreslå der lades med 180 gr Barnes TSX.

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mvh
Svar
#3
Hej.

Til 30-06 vile jeg nok vælge 168 grains Barnes TTSX - specielt til de lange hold i Skotland - prøv at kontakte Explorer, jeg ved han er ved at arbejde med den i hans nye S&L Classic.

Med venlig hilsen
Bushman
Der er noget underligt ved livet: Hvis man accepterer mindre end det bedste, får man det tit.
Med venlig hilsen
Bushman

Der er noget underligt ved livet: Hvis man accepterer mindre end det bedste, får man det tit.
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#4
Jeg har lavet lidt ballistik på dem skudt ind med 3 cm overslag på 100 m og i følge mulige hastighedsresultater fra Qload, hvilken der er bedst ud til 300 m handler vist mest om flueknepperi [Smile]

Det var også planen at jeg ville eksperimentere med 110 grain TTSX som bukkeladning, det bliver sikker en 130 i stedet da det er den Rex har på hylden [Smile]

Citat:quote:

TTSX 130 grain

Bullet*name******************Barnes*TTSX
Bullet*diameter**************7.82*mm
Bullet*weight****************8.42*g
Bullet*BC********************0.350
Muzzle*Velocity**************958*m/s
Sight-in*range***************100*m
Impact*above*POA*************30*mm
Sight*height*above*bore******41*mm
Sight*click*size*************10.0*mm/100m
Temperature******************15*deg*C
Wind*speed*******************0.00*m/s
Wind*angle*******************90*degs
Altitude*above*sea*level*****0*m
Shooting*angle***************0*degs
Cant*angle*******************0*degs

**Range******Time**Velocity**Energy*****Drop**Vert.*POI
****[m]*******[s]*****[m/s]*****[J]*****[cm]*******[cm]
=======================================================
******0*****0.000*******958****3866******0.0*******-4.1
*****10*****0.010*******948****3789******0.1*******-2.9
*****20*****0.021*******939****3713******0.2*******-1.8
*****30*****0.031*******929****3638******0.5*******-0.7
*****40*****0.042*******920****3565******0.9********0.2
*****50*****0.055*******911****3493******1.5********0.8
*****60*****0.066*******901****3422******2.1********1.5
*****70*****0.076*******893****3359******2.7********2.1
*****80*****0.087*******884****3291******3.6********2.5
*****90*****0.098*******875****3224******4.6********2.8
****100*****0.110*******866****3158******5.7********3.0
****110*****0.121*******857****3093******6.9********3.0
****120*****0.133*******848****3029******8.3********2.9
****130*****0.145*******839****2966******9.9********2.7
****140*****0.157*******830****2904*****11.5********2.3
****150*****0.169*******822****2844*****13.4********1.7
****160*****0.182*******813****2784*****15.3********1.0
****170*****0.194*******804****2725*****17.5********0.2
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****190*****0.220*******787****2611*****22.2*******-2.0
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****440*****0.585*******593****1479****143.8******-91.6
****450*****0.602*******585****1443****151.6******-98.1
****460*****0.619*******578****1408****159.8*****-105.0
****470*****0.636*******571****1373****168.3*****-112.2
****480*****0.654*******564****1340****177.1*****-119.8
****490*****0.672*******557****1307****186.3*****-127.7
****500*****0.690*******550****1275****195.9*****-136.0



Citat:quote:

TTSX 150 grain

Bullet*name******************Barnes*T-TSX
Bullet*diameter**************7.82*mm
Bullet*weight****************9.72*g
Bullet*BC********************0.420
Muzzle*Velocity**************899*m/s
Sight-in*range***************100*m
Impact*above*POA*************30*mm
Sight*height*above*bore******42*mm
Sight*click*size*************10.0*mm/100m
Temperature******************15*deg*C
Wind*speed*******************0.00*m/s
Wind*angle*******************90*degs
Altitude*above*sea*level*****0*m
Shooting*angle***************0*degs
Cant*angle*******************0*degs

**Range******Time**Velocity**Energy*****Drop**Vert.*POI
****[m]*******[s]*****[m/s]*****[J]*****[cm]*******[cm]
=======================================================
******0*****0.000*******899****3928******0.0*******-4.2
*****10*****0.011*******891****3861******0.1*******-2.9
*****20*****0.022*******884****3796******0.2*******-1.7
*****30*****0.033*******876****3731******0.5*******-0.7
*****40*****0.045*******869****3667******1.0********0.2
*****50*****0.056*******861****3604******1.5********1.0
*****60*****0.068*******854****3542******2.2********1.7
*****70*****0.079*******847****3487******3.0********2.3
*****80*****0.091*******840****3426******4.0********2.7
*****90*****0.103*******832****3367******5.1********2.9
****100*****0.115*******825****3308******6.3********3.0
****110*****0.127*******818****3250******7.7********2.9
****120*****0.140*******811****3193******9.3********2.7
****130*****0.152*******803****3137*****11.0********2.4
****140*****0.165*******796****3082*****12.9********1.9
****150*****0.178*******789****3027*****14.9********1.2
****160*****0.191*******782****2973*****17.1********0.4
****170*****0.204*******775****2920*****19.4*******-0.6
****180*****0.217*******768****2868*****21.9*******-1.8
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****200*****0.243*******754****2765*****27.4*******-4.5
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****220*****0.268*******741****2670*****33.2*******-7.6
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****340*****0.441*******662****2129*****86.3******-44.5
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****420*****0.566*******612****1822****138.8******-86.3
****430*****0.583*******606****1786****146.8******-92.9
****440*****0.599*******600****1750****154.5******-99.3
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****460*****0.632*******588****1680****171.0*****-113.0
****470*****0.649*******582****1645****179.7*****-120.4
****480*****0.666*******576****1612****188.8*****-128.1
****490*****0.684*******570****1579****198.2*****-136.2
****500*****0.702*******564****1547****208.0*****-144.6



Citat:quote:

TTSX 165 grain

Bullet*name******************Barnes*TTSX
Bullet*diameter**************7.82*mm
Bullet*weight****************10.69*g
Bullet*BC********************0.442
Muzzle*Velocity**************871*m/s
Sight-in*range***************100*m
Impact*above*POA*************30*mm
Sight*height*above*bore******42*mm
Sight*click*size*************10.0*mm/100m
Temperature******************15*deg*C
Wind*speed*******************0.00*m/s
Wind*angle*******************90*degs
Altitude*above*sea*level*****0*m
Shooting*angle***************0*degs
Cant*angle*******************0*degs

**Range******Time**Velocity**Energy*****Drop**Vert.*POI
****[m]*******[s]*****[m/s]*****[J]*****[cm]*******[cm]
=======================================================
******0*****0.000*******871****4056******0.0*******-4.2
*****10*****0.012*******864****3990******0.1*******-2.9
*****20*****0.023*******857****3925******0.3*******-1.7
*****30*****0.035*******850****3860******0.6*******-0.6
*****40*****0.047*******843****3797******1.1********0.3
*****50*****0.059*******836****3734******1.7********1.1
*****60*****0.071*******829****3673******2.4********1.8
*****70*****0.082*******823****3617******3.2********2.4
*****80*****0.095*******816****3557******4.3********2.7
*****90*****0.107*******809****3498******5.5********2.9
****100*****0.120*******802****3439******6.8********3.0
****110*****0.132*******795****3381******8.3********2.9
****120*****0.145*******789****3324*****10.0********2.6
****130*****0.158*******782****3268*****11.8********2.2
****140*****0.171*******775****3213*****13.8********1.6
****150*****0.184*******769****3158*****16.0********0.9
****160*****0.197*******762****3104*****18.3*******-0.0
****170*****0.210*******755****3051*****20.7*******-1.1
****180*****0.223*******749****2998*****23.3*******-2.3
****190*****0.237*******742****2946*****26.1*******-3.6
****200*****0.250*******736****2895*****29.0*******-5.2
****210*****0.264*******729****2844*****32.2*******-6.9
****220*****0.276*******724****2799*****35.2*******-8.6
****230*****0.290*******717****2750*****38.7******-10.7
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****320*****0.422*******661****2337*****79.9******-39.2
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****340*****0.453*******649****2253*****91.5******-48.0
****350*****0.469*******643****2211*****97.6******-52.7
****360*****0.484*******637****2170****104.0******-57.7
****370*****0.500*******631****2130****110.6******-62.9
****380*****0.515*******626****2094****116.8******-67.7
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****400*****0.547*******614****2015****131.2******-79.3
****410*****0.564*******608****1978****139.1******-85.8
****420*****0.580*******602****1940****146.6******-91.9
****430*****0.597*******597****1903****154.5******-98.4
****440*****0.613*******591****1866****162.7*****-105.2
****450*****0.630*******585****1830****171.3*****-112.3
****460*****0.647*******579****1795****180.1*****-119.8
****470*****0.665*******574****1760****189.3*****-127.6
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****490*****0.700*******563****1693****208.7*****-144.2
****500*****0.718*******557****1660****219.0*****-153.0



Citat:quote:

TTSX 168 grain

Bullet*name******************Barnes*TTSX
Bullet*diameter**************7.82*mm
Bullet*weight****************10.89*g
Bullet*BC********************0.470
Muzzle*Velocity**************861*m/s
Sight-in*range***************100*m
Impact*above*POA*************30*mm
Sight*height*above*bore******42*mm
Sight*click*size*************10.0*mm/100m
Temperature******************15*deg*C
Wind*speed*******************0.00*m/s
Wind*angle*******************90*degs
Altitude*above*sea*level*****0*m
Shooting*angle***************0*degs
Cant*angle*******************0*degs

**Range******Time**Velocity**Energy*****Drop**Vert.*POI
****[m]*******[s]*****[m/s]*****[J]*****[cm]*******[cm]
=======================================================
******0*****0.000*******861****4035******0.0*******-4.2
*****10*****0.012*******854****3973******0.1*******-2.8
*****20*****0.024*******848****3912******0.3*******-1.6
*****30*****0.035*******841****3851******0.6*******-0.6
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****170*****0.212*******753****3084*****21.1*******-1.2
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****190*****0.238*******741****2985*****26.5*******-3.8
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Citat:quote:

TTSX 180 grain

Bullet*name******************Barnes*TTSX
Bullet*diameter**************7.82*mm
Bullet*weight****************11.66*g
Bullet*BC********************0.484
Muzzle*Velocity**************833*m/s
Sight-in*range***************100*m
Impact*above*POA*************30*mm
Sight*height*above*bore******42*mm
Sight*click*size*************10.0*mm/100m
Temperature******************15*deg*C
Wind*speed*******************0.00*m/s
Wind*angle*******************90*degs
Altitude*above*sea*level*****0*m
Shooting*angle***************0*degs
Cant*angle*******************0*degs

**Range******Time**Velocity**Energy*****Drop**Vert.*POI
****[m]*******[s]*****[m/s]*****[J]*****[cm]*******[cm]
=======================================================
******0*****0.000*******833****4047******0.0*******-4.2
*****10*****0.012*******827****3986******0.1*******-2.8
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****100*****0.125*******772****3472******7.5********3.0
****110*****0.139*******766****3418******9.2********2.8
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****180*****0.232*******724****3057*****25.2*******-2.9
****190*****0.246*******718****3008*****28.2*******-4.4
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****490*****0.720*******556****1805****223.0*****-155.1
****500*****0.738*******551****1772****233.8*****-164.4



Citat:quote:

TTSX 200 grain

Bullet*name******************Barnes*TTSX
Bullet*diameter**************7.82*mm
Bullet*weight****************12.96*g
Bullet*BC********************0.546
Muzzle*Velocity**************788*m/s
Sight-in*range***************100*m
Impact*above*POA*************30*mm
Sight*height*above*bore******42*mm
Sight*click*size*************10.0*mm/100m
Temperature******************15*deg*C
Wind*speed*******************0.00*m/s
Wind*angle*******************90*degs
Altitude*above*sea*level*****0*m
Shooting*angle***************0*degs
Cant*angle*******************0*degs

**Range******Time**Velocity**Energy**Vert.*POI
****[m]*******[s]*****[m/s]*****[J]*******[cm]
==============================================
******0*****0.000*******788****4024*******-4.2
*****10*****0.013*******783****3969*******-2.8
*****20*****0.026*******777****3914*******-1.5
*****30*****0.039*******772****3860*******-0.3
*****40*****0.052*******766****3806********0.6
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*****60*****0.078*******756****3701********2.0
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MVH Bjarne
MVH Bjarne
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#5
Hej Bjarne
Det var mange tal du har fået skrevet her.

Den første kugle er en 168gr.
og nr to er en 180gr.
Bare for at der ikke er nogle der tror den ene var en 130gr. kugle til bukke jagt.
Jeg ved godt du har skrevet 10,89g. og 11,66g.
Jeg ville bare lige skrive det, hvis der var nogle som ikke lige fangede det.
Undskyld jeg blander mig i det du har skrevet[Big Grin]
Vi snakkedes ved[Wink]

Mvh Maubla Ole
Mvh. Ole

http://www.oleholstjagt.com/

Skyder med kaliber 22LR. 17 HMR. 243W. 6,5x55. 30-06. 8x68S. 375H&H. 444 Marlin

Den der sladrer til dig, sladrer også om dig!!!
Slæde trækker. I love it
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#6
Citat:quote:

Originally posted by Maubla

Det var mange tal du har fået skrevet her.


Hvad gør man ikke for sine medjægere [Smile]

MVH Bjarne
MVH Bjarne
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#7
Takker det ser fint ud.
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#8
Så er der fra 130 til 200 grain, jeg valgte 168 da den har en god kombination ag energi / hastighed / flad kuglebane, men alt andet lige skal man jo for dem alle kende deres ballistik fra området omkring 170 - 200 meter og så ud efter

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